Screamers and Dreamers
27 September 2011 - 1:23pm
Screamers and Dreamers! I have to question how much screaming actually improves climbing. I guess it must because Sharma does it...a lot! But, the tennis queens, as an example, have taken the squealing to a whole new level too far. Is the climbing scene destined for the same auditory abuse. Personally, I think this chick takes it way too far. I think she might be loosing power by expelling her breath too much at the point of max intensity.
I have to admit that I have screamed, grunted and moaned, a bit (a lot), in my climbing life hoping for some guttural advantage but i am not convinced it is all necessary. Is all the screaming....really just posing. Is all the noise.....just drawing attention. Or, is all the noise justified?
The downgrade talk at the end is absolutely classic.
I wonder if Mayan has any aspirations for Punks. It would great to have a kiwi woman "knock the bastard off!" Is she a screamer?
27 September 2011 - 2:23pm
#2
Regan is a screamer!
Team RRRRRRrrrr!
27 September 2011 - 2:37pm
#3
Okool.....but is she a screamer? It didn't say in her blog. Anybody know?
27 September 2011 - 2:48pm
#4
Not that I've noticed.
27 September 2011 - 3:47pm
#5
I think she's a grunter. I'm a screamer.
11 October 2011 - 8:29pm
#6
Can you say that here?
27 September 2011 - 10:59pm
#7
I had a conversation about this at the crag on saturday - Grunting before/during a difficult move I think helps maximize your effort, maximally recruit your muscles and psyche you up during a hard move. If you look at martial arts, those guys/girls are trained to grunt/scream while punching/kicking etc... When I'm doing a difficult move, I often grunt, or make some sort of vocalization (sometimes it sounds sort of like "EhUp Ahh", which is what my Ukranian and Austrian fencing coachs used to say during lessons). I think it helps.
But... it can go too far. The annoying squealing climber who moans and groans ALL the time is desensitizing himself/herself to the postive benifits of the grunt. And annoying everybody around them. I climbed with a German climber in April who made "exertional sounds" ALL the time. Whether he was walking or climbing, even drinking. I told him that if he sounded like this normally, I'd hate to have to hear him having sex... He toned it down a bit.
28 September 2011 - 6:30am
#8
I'm a screamer... normally... "TAAAKKKEEE IIIINNN!!"
28 September 2011 - 11:41am
#9
Nice one Jezer, my favourite along that line is "Watch Me!!!!!" Thinking about falling before the act of falling is definately classified as whimpering. Sometimes when I am scared to fall and then do fall. I will expel all the air in my lungs uncontollably. It kinda sounds like a high pitch uuUUHHOOoo.
I agree with Graham that a controlled grunt can be used to focus your Chi when recruiting for maximum contact power. But to squeal and grunt like a pig on every hold, every move is nothing more than an annoying lack of self control.
28 September 2011 - 12:45pm
#10
I scream when I fall.... not when I'm climbing.
I use BAD BAD language when i'm struggling. This tiny girl swears like a sailor
29 September 2011 - 1:45am
#11
Nice video clip clip thank you. Being a Peter is never easy, especially whilst being yelled at by other climbers, and having a camera to perform for. There should be a special place where Peter's can mingle and speak to others with the same affliction.
Being a Peter is not a handicap, it's simply a jealousy. When Peter achieves the whole world should rejoice with him. When Peter faills there ought to be a time of mourning declared so that everyone who understands Peter, and who knows how he represents an ideal concept worthy of striving towards is given time to come to terms and to re-evalaue how meaningful life would be without Peter.
28 September 2011 - 1:56pm
#12
Interesting grunts and squeals from this vid. They are exceeded only by the very, very annoying chatter of other climbers continuously yelling out: Let's go, Come On, Venga, Ale, Do It, etc. etc.
Help or Hindrance???????
13 October 2011 - 1:27pm
#13
An interesting aside to this topic. Do people find they actually benefit from the (sometimes incessant) encouragement of people on the ground? I personally find I climb better without unnecessary distractions.
Also, I've lost count of how many amatuer climbing videos I've seen that have been ruined by off-camera chatter.
13 October 2011 - 1:56pm
#14
Depends if it's fake or not. If I've been working a route, I'm attempting it again, I'm pumped and about to give up and a good friend yells support to keep going, It can change my mindset from "doing it for me" - which I don't really give a toss about as I climb for fun... to "doing it for them" because they want me to succeed. It depends. If it's actually authentic and well meant I think it can help.
14 October 2011 - 5:52am
#15
Generally it is annoying but there was one new route in particular I did at Paynes where I was not prepared mentally to complete the route as I had not expected to get the crux when I did. So when I actually pulled the crux I wasn't ready to complete it. Some forceful encouragement by Brian Alder brought me into line and helped me finish it
Mayan has tried it A LOT. Hopefully next season.
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