How lame is this forum?
6 July 2011 - 8:38pm
On a scale of 1 to 10? 1 being so lame that even a 2-year-dead-legless-dog has more life in it, 10 being...er...viagra.
I reckon...1
But then, forums are what you make of them.
7 July 2011 - 9:01am
#2
Yeah it's all about the Avigra now.
7 July 2011 - 12:41pm
#3
4
7 July 2011 - 8:58pm
#4
Same old same old
7 July 2011 - 9:40pm
#5
A solid 3. But if you're tall maybe a 2.
7 July 2011 - 9:43pm
#6
eh, I'd give it a 4 or so. It could be a lot more active. if mountainz and mojozone merged, we'd probably average 1 or 2 posts/day.
7 July 2011 - 10:00pm
#7
The likelihood of that happening would be the subject of another poll 
8 July 2011 - 1:22am
#8
Considering the size of the climbing scene in NZ and the user base here, I think the amount of activity here is about what I would expect. (not saying I wouldn't like a bit more of course...)
Forums like Rockclimbing.com/ClimbingUK/SuperTopo/MountainProject/etc have huge user bases, which apparently contain lots of people who spend an inordinant amount of time typing....
A lot of the more local forums I am familiar with (mostly german) are much quieter than MojoZone, except Teufelsturm.de, but that is more of a chatroom than forum and they mostly talk about politics....
Even the national forums here (klettern.de / climbing.de) don't see much more traffic than MojoZone, even though the entire german climbing community is considerably larger than the NZ community. Not sure why...
At least compared to them, the mojo forum is better than a '1'. 
8 July 2011 - 11:13am
#9
Good info Gabe
Looking to the future, we're planning to develop a new site, climber.co.nz, as our place for climbing news, pics & idle chitchat...this will likely replace mojozone...more info to come
OLLIE
9 July 2011 - 3:05pm
#10
Compared to Powerband
Mojozone is a 10. What we need is more smack. Thanks for getting the ball rolling JP.
11 July 2011 - 12:02pm
#11
The main problem is the whole thing is too young and active and climbing - oriented. It needs to be marketed to old dudes who have families and knackered tendons and can't go to the crag any more, but are full of un-channelled vitriol and slander. You know, the middle-aged mountain biker demographic.
11 July 2011 - 9:02pm
#12
Ok, so more character assassination then? Would that really lift the ratings? Or just more posts involving viagra?
11 July 2011 - 9:33pm
#13
A wooden post?
12 July 2011 - 3:48pm
#14
5
21 July 2011 - 8:12pm
#15
JP did you see yr old mate(ess) Franny's rant at Peter KD on fb - mastercard moment. Now that was 9
22 July 2011 - 9:22am
#16
Please repost here for our amusement.
22 July 2011 - 12:25pm
#17
oh it was sooo last week - you know fb it's so important it only lasts a day.....not quite sure how I got to see it cos neither are friends - cragrat might have it....
22 July 2011 - 1:31pm
#18
Hi everyone
Just a quick reminder on the Mojozone rules - see http://mojozone.co.nz/terms
We have in the past had some comments & threads develop which have resorted to personal insults and abusive language, which we've had to remove. So whilst I see nothing wrong with the comments in this thread thus far, lets keep it wholesome...like perhaps focussed on climbing. Mojozone is not the place for the fb conversation mentioned above to be posted.
cheers
OLLIE
22 July 2011 - 3:56pm
#19
That's right, we just want cold showers, alpenstocks and robust debate about whether man will ever climb HVS.
22 July 2011 - 5:22pm
#20
I saw the fb exchange. PURE gold.
24 July 2011 - 1:35am
#21
What concerns me is when an alleged climber can go postal on fb with every and any kind of personally degrading allegation in an irrational attempt at destroying a climbers alleged social standing, and yet still resorts to bullying and cajoling the NZAC into removing posts that light-heartedly poke fun at her and/or her partner. And they get away with it
It's a sad state of affairs for NZ climbing when the forum moderators lack the spine to stand up to bullying and standover tactics from people without a climbing pedigree who put their own social status ahead of a vigorous factual debate about climbing.
In a time when the NZAC has had a public discussion about what has held up the development and evolution of climbing standards, it seems inexplicable to me when I see the tail-end trying to wag the Dog.
Mediocrity, along with the unintentional Lameness that comes with it is not the solution. It is representative of the problem.
I have never been a really good climber but luckily I have done some geniunely great climbs with some very good climbers. I have also known some bad climbers and I am capable of distinguishing the difference.
Unfortunately one of the attributes of less experienced climbers is that they talk too much about climbing relative to their actual accomplishments. Internet forums have exacerbated this problem. The postings by those experienced and knowledgeable contributors are often succinct, direct, and to the point, thus are often easy to overlook or are even dismissed by people who have too much to say, and who use excessive verbiage to influence and to sway the opinions of others and hence gain more credibility for themselves.
Climbing is not and never has been a popularity contest.
It would truly be a sad state of affairs if climbers perceptions about the essential nature of their chosen activity was controlled to by people from the blunt end of climbing, particularly who might even be considered as not being a true climber at all in the technical sense.
It would be worse for climbing if there was nobody here with integrity and self-belief to stand up and state clearly and directly that someone was full of BS, and/or that they had nothing constructive to talk about. Climbing grows and develops by people who commit themselves the most, and who make the biggest sacrifices to further their sport. Being at the sharp end is exciting, creative, and fulfilling.
What makes climbing lame is when others spend their time denigrating that climbing process, and who then have their words taken seriously as the actual truth.
24 July 2011 - 1:24pm
#22
Top post Ghost, even though I have no idea about the specifics of this situation.
24 July 2011 - 5:12pm
#23
I agree with Regan - I don't know the specifics (but I can guess!) - that was a well thought out and well worded post.
G
24 July 2011 - 10:45pm
#24
Well, we knew it wouldn't be long before the "We hate Francesca, Glenn and Mountainz.co.nz" club got back into swing here.
Peter, what you wrote about us, our website, and Glenn's business here on this forum was nothing that even resembled "poking light-hearted fun" - it was baseless slander. You also did email me and say all manner of other inappropriate things. And you also did skedaddle from the room in a great hurry when you realised that we were in-the-flesh at the CMC talk you attended earlier this year. We know this, you know this - so you can quit with the hard-done-by act/fake outrage.
We get that you like to direct to your....stuff....at us. So we have a proposition for you. Instead of spraying your hatred of us all over the Internet, how about we meet in person and you can say it all to our faces instead? Heck, we live in the same small city, it'll be easy as pie to arrange a get together.
Our number is 021 153 3919.
Now, your track record would suggest that you much prefer to spray hate online rather than say things to people's faces. But there is the offer. If you decide that you prefer to stick to a keyboard and an empty room rather than deal with real, live people, that's your choice.
We have also extended this same offer to others on Mojozone who like to er, talk, about us - that is, to meet with us in person and say things about us to our faces instead of online. However, so far, none have taken up the offer, or they have rattled off excuses about how they don't have anything to say to us (presumably they meant to add "in person").
As for other users/readers of Mojozone...well, we are under no illusion that we have any control over the perceptions complete strangers might choose to form of us on the basis of things written about us on an Internet forum.
Cheers to Rowan for his hard work back in the day when he set Mojozone up. It is sad to see the site's forum being used as it currently is.
Peter, I guess we might be hearing from you soon?
Cheers,
Francesca and Glenn
25 July 2011 - 10:24am
#25
If saying something to someone's face is the higher moral ground... The basis on which anything else can be discredited upon... I hope you have a port-a-ledge.
For if you hold so tightly to that view, why do you run an internet forum?
I know roughly all the names in this thread, it's the first time I have seen your name... and you come here, to a community I am apart of, to make a point about speaking face to face? Can you see how you might be coming across?
25 July 2011 - 5:34pm
#26
Quick note from the moderator here...
At this point, I am "locking" this thread, please do not post anything further.
I will explain why once I have had my coffee. 
Thank you in advance.
Cheers,
Gabe
25 July 2011 - 9:41pm
#27
So......coffee consumed.
This is an official statement from me as a moderator here on MojoZone, that personal conflicts do not belong here! My role here is not that of a referee in a boxing match.
Mature discussions about climbing related topics are more than welcome, but the conflict between Francesca & Glenn, Ghost, and others here appears to be neither. I do not know what originally started the conflict, and I do not personally know any of the parties involved. As a completely objective observer, I only see the amount of trouble and work it is causing both me and NZAC by allowing it to bleed over into this forum.
Feel free to continue face-to-face, on Facebook, or anywhere else you would like, but please do not bring up this conflict again, either directly or indirectly, here on MojoZone.
Thank you!
PS, the "lock" remains. If you have any comments, please feel free to contact me or Ollie, and/or post up in the "Comments" area.
10 being...er...viagra.
Showing your age mate.